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SLC DII 2012
  • For me, last season was easily the best in the short, 3 year history of the Southwestern Lacrosse Conference. I enjoyed the parity- a welcome change- and seeing Cal State Fulllerton lose twice in conference. They ultimately got the three-peat in the conference championship, but it was close.

    I've been a part of MCLA lacrosse in the area since fall 05, and our league hasn't been a national contender since USD and Claremont split for DI. After last year, I feel like the SLC might be able to sneak 3 teams (CSUF, UCSD, & CUI) into the top 25. Maybe even 4 if Biola gets back on their feet or if Oxy lives up to the talent on campus. I'm officially not part of the program anymore, but I heard that the recruiting slot machine spit out a national recruiting class. Oxy hasn't cracked the top 25 since 2006, but last year officially broke the 08-10 slump, and this might be the year.

    Clearly, I'm biased, but I'm also very excited for the SLC to become a positive influence on the MCLA.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Also forgot one point: How crazy is it that Jay Pfeiffer (Syracuse goalie and national champion) coaches at Pepperdine? Despite it's the view from its fields and the fact that it used to get voted in the preseason top 25 solely because of name recognition and one spread in a magazine, they never travel or really seem to make a big impact in the league.

    After starting the season 0-4, they won out their last 5 games. I wonder if they'll extend that streak into 2012.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Not until Pepperdine players show more commitment, will they be a contender. They skipped out on their playoff game last year with Fullerton because it was graduation day.
  • Is this true? I hadn't heard about this. I see that Biola played, did they replace Pepperdine or was it Biola getting in on a tiebreaker?

    Will Patton
    LAS Forums Moderator
  • Reply to @TheBearcatHimself: Pepperdine did earn the spot, but chose to not attend, as stated above, and confirmed by Coach Aaron Klett of Biola, who was chosen for the spot due to being the next best record.
  • No, Pepperdine definitely earned the playoff spot. Our whole staff thought that they were slighted by an eligibility violation or not having a coach for a game or something, but this makes more sense.

    To touch back on my original post, I really hope less of this stuff happens in the future. More parity and an elevated level of play should help the situation. I mean Biola is the only team that regularly draws fans to their games.

    Also, I really hope they drop the idea of having the DII championship in Arizona, ever. It's a waste of money for a conference entirely based in southern california, and likely prevents parents, students, and fans from showing up.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • The PNCLL tried playoffs in Montana and Bend, Oregon, far from the population centers. The games themselves were great, but attendance from parents and related fans was certainly cut down drastically compared with when held in Portland, Seattle, or Tacoma areas.
    Will Patton
    LAS Forums Moderator
  • Reply to @TheBearcatHimself: not true Will... we had over 2,000 fans in Missoula (plus over 2,000 who watched online) which seems far more than were at the tournament this year. Montana generally has high attendance, compared to other PNCLL teams. Not sure why this is the case, but it is
  • That is what I was told. Pepperdine chose not to play against Fullerton in the playoffs because of a graduation. Pepperdine has always lacked dedication to take them to the next level. The whole Arizona thing was a disaster, especially in D2. Concordia, Fullerton, Long Beach, and UCSD, all within an hour's drive of each other had to play 7 hours away. I'll be it, U of A was an awesome venue, it was a giant waste of money. I feel like the SLC is a bit unorganized administratively. Was anyone else surprised that the D2 all-conference list had 7 1st team attackmen? I thought that was the biggest joke ever and things like that are why the SLC D2 is a joke sometimes.
  • OK, I'm saying this knowing I'm not in the SLC, so I know my opinion doesn't change things:

    If a team in my league skipped out on a playoff berth, I would push to ban them from postseason competition for the next season, maybe two. That is total BS that they didn't fulfill their berth, I don't care that they informed the league ahead of time or whatever to get a replacement team. If you can't play in playoffs, why be in the league in the first place?

    The MCLA is for committed teams, the more we reward teams for being less than committed the more we will carry the club moniker to outsiders looking in.
    Will Patton
    LAS Forums Moderator
  • Which is why I feel that administratively the SLC is lacking leadership.
  • I get that Arizona is inconvenient for teams (trust me, I flew in for the league meeting, and flew out the next morning), but you need to understand what the SLC is trying to do. They open up the league playoffs for anyone to host, and when only U of A steps up to host the playoffs, that is where the games are at. D2 and D1 were both in Arizona as the SLC wants to keep both divisions together to fully display the league at playoffs. Yes, Arizona is not even close to 90% of the teams, but if anyone else would step up to host the playoffs then they wouldn't be there.

    Pepperdine did earn the playoff spot, however they gave it up a week prior to the game. I had remembered them saying something like that at the October meeting last year, yet when I tried emailing multiple SLC administrators a month in advance, my questions fell on deaf ears. I had to take a team who had stopped playing two weeks earlier, all of whom were on spring break at the time, to a playoff game that we shouldn't even have been in, and that was beyond frustrating. Because of Pepperdine's actions, there are now rules and fines in place, however they got off with no repercussions last year because there was no rule prior in place prior to May.

    I do think that the SLC tries hard to promote the growth of lacrosse in SoCal, and yes the administration isn't always up to par, but when they have to deal with teams who do whatever they want (USC forfeiting twice), it doesn't make things very easy.
    Aaron Klett
    Biola University
    Head Coach
  • Reply to @aklett: Now that I'm only a fan, I can say that I think the playoffs should just be a home game to the higher seed in DII without being ungrateful. I guess it was nice of Arizona to host though.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Reply to @Cam: the good news is that the SLC final four and championships will be in San Diego for the next two years.
    Aaron Klett
    Biola University
    Head Coach
  • To get back on topic, I believe we could see 3 teams from SLC make it to Nationals as well. Concordia and Fullerton have made national recognition, and had it not been for a good portion of concordia not making it out to arizona to play, they would have been a new face at denver as well. I think that if we have slightly upgraded talent at the top schools in SLC D2 then we can have 3 teams within the top 15 when the regular season ends.
  • Reply to @BULane: Totally. CUI, Fullerton, UCSD, Long Beach, and Biola are all programs that could crack the top 25 with a little luck in recruiting and a couple good wins. Love seeing our league improve. It had been a little underwhelming since USD and Claremont split.

    Oxy might be a sleeper this year too, although top 25 is a tall order for us. We'll see how the new recruits do in Las Vegas this fall. I, tentatively, heard that Oxy is playing Westminster, UC Davis, and UCLA in Vegas- stiff competition for a program on the rise.

    Are any other SLC II teams making the drive?
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Reply to @Cam: Three teams? From the SLC? You are putting a conference that has never won a game at the national tournament in the same league as the UMLL, RMLC, and CCLA.
  • Reply to @CLamon: Look at the seedings Fullerton has received. Each year they've gotten stronger yet they receive terrible seeds in Denver. Try to take your team and win as a 15 seed in Denver.
  • Reply to @PEstevez: You want to know how to get a higher seed? I suggest leave the state of California for a game.
  • Reply to @CLamon: It's a very valid point. We're all terrible! Why leave when our home field is in 85 degree sunshine in February? Other than Las Vegas, I never played outside southern California in four years of MCLA ball.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Reply to @CLamon: I said top 25. Someone else said tournament. I know that's a stretch!
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Reply to @Cam: You are very right, I apologize. I do thing the state of California has three top 25 teams, I don’t know if they are all from the SLC however. Concordia and Fullerton have been good teams of late, but beyond that there is a big drop off.
  • Did Grand Canyon get admitted into DII? Are there any new official teams this year? CSU San Marcos? Will Redlands ever get a team?
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Reply to @Cam: Grand Canyon has been admitted into D2, with potential plans to move to D1 in the next few years. CSU San Marcos was also admitted for this season after a season as an independent. Northern Arizona came to the meeting, but after much discussion they chose to remain independent and rebuild their team for a year before applying for admission. No word on Redlands, I haven't heard from them in at least a year.
    Aaron Klett
    Biola University
    Head Coach
  • Reply to @aklett: Thanks for the update. GCU might make their presence known rather quickly! I feel sorry for Cal Lu.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Fullerton has made its way up to Oregon before. As far as playing in nice weather, if that is your only reason why you shouldn't leave your state to play OCC conference, it might be hard to get a higher seed...... :)
    Tyler Baumann
    SOU Lacrosse Alum
    www.BaumannProductions.com
  • Reply to @Tlingit_Cannon: Why travel to play talented teams when you can get middle-of-the-road teams to come to you?
  • Reply to @Tlingit_Cannon: Vegas Full House Tournament perhaps? A few teams in the top 25 were there. Try Westminster and UVU.
  • ummmm to try and be the best? I don't know...? When I played I wanted to play the best teams out there to help our team get experience and also get our name in the mix by playing big name teams. I also could throw a ball over them mountains.... Granted we didn't play them all, but we definitely tried and got a chance to play multiple top 25 teams. It just helped us as a team, to realize where we need to be if we want to compete with the top teams. Some teams want to improve every year by playing better teams and putting in the extra work to get there. Some just do what it takes to get by, to each their own.
    Tyler Baumann
    SOU Lacrosse Alum
    www.BaumannProductions.com
  • Adam said:

    Reply to @Tlingit_Cannon: Vegas Full House Tournament perhaps? A few teams in the top 25 were there. Try Westminster and UVU.



    There were more than two top 25 teams there..... If I remember right, all of the teams that participated in that tourny were in the top 25 at that moment. Not a dig at CSFU if that's where you are from, I said that they also traveled to Oregon. I was just saying you can't play all of your games in California because of the 85 degree weather and expect to have a higher seed/more national recognition as a legitimate contender. Vegas is in Nevada, so if your team was there, then you traveled outside of California which is a good way to get noticed....
    Tyler Baumann
    SOU Lacrosse Alum
    www.BaumannProductions.com
  • Reply to @Tlingit_Cannon: Rule of thumb: If they have In-N-Out, then it might as well be California.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Reply to @Tlingit_Cannon:
    Former CSUF player (09-10) but I transferred up to OSU. I guess I'm an alum in a sense?
    Anyway, back to the response!
    I'm aware that there were more than those two top 25 teams but I was just trying to illustrate that Fullerton played UVU and Westminster in '09 and '10. I'm not trying to take stabs at you either but just trying to mention that fact was overlooked especially when those teams (if I remember correctly) were in the top 10 at the time or for a good portion of those seasons.
    As much as I hate to say it, SLC D2 didn't get any better as a whole until this past year. I guess another good parallel to that would be Sam Houston State and the LSA D2. Steamrolling your entire conference doesn't always transition to the nationals.
  • I second that
    Tyler Baumann
    SOU Lacrosse Alum
    www.BaumannProductions.com




  • Adam said:

    Reply to @Tlingit_Cannon:
    Former CSUF player (09-10) but I transferred up to OSU. I guess I'm an alum in a sense?
    Anyway, back to the response!
    I'm aware that there were more than those two top 25 teams but I was just trying to illustrate that Fullerton played UVU and Westminster in '09 and '10. I'm not trying to take stabs at you either but just trying to mention that fact was overlooked especially when those teams (if I remember correctly) were in the top 10 at the time or for a good portion of those seasons.
    As much as I hate to say it, SLC D2 didn't get any better as a whole until this past year. I guess another good parallel to that would be Sam Houston State and the LSA D2. Steamrolling your entire conference doesn't always transition to the nationals.




    It was a great game when you guys came up to Oregon and played us (SOU) in 09' as well. I think we were both ranked in the top 15 at the time and you guys handed us our only regular season loss that year in Double OT. You guys travel well, I wasn't really sure what team said they don't like to travel out of state because the weather is nice. I live in Santa Barbara now so I definitely understand how nice the weather is down here, but sometimes you gotta race. You're a Beav now? Might tell Stelling to run you a little harder for handing us that loss back in 09'....jk :)

    Tyler Baumann
    SOU Lacrosse Alum
    www.BaumannProductions.com
  • Reply to @Tlingit_Cannon:
    I actually lucked out of that Oregon trip because I had a few midterms that I couldn't miss. I remember hearing about the whole double OT shenanigans...didn't you guys score first then it was waived? Also, the guys ALMOST got hit by some intoxicated fool driving down the wrong side of the freeway. Wouldn't want to be part of that!

    Yep, I'm a Beav now. In my defense since I wasn't there for that win I can opt out of that punishment. :P Doing any lacrosse now that you're in SB? Won't lie, I do miss playing in the southern California weather but nothing beats the experience of having Reser Stadium all to yourself 4 nights a week. ;)
  • Reply to @Adam:
    Ya that did happen... it was still a great game though! Still laxin it up for sure, played pick up with the UCSB guys all summer and played in the Jam by the Sea and Summer Bender as well. I am definitely enjoying playing in this sunny weather, though we did get quite a bit of sun down at SOU, just not that warm Cali air! Got to love that Southern Oregon Weather! Reser is dope, you guys still practicing in Truax?
    Tyler Baumann
    SOU Lacrosse Alum
    www.BaumannProductions.com
  • Reply to @Tlingit_Cannon:
    Is Truax the indoor field? I know last year we didn't get a chance to step foot near it. I am very happy with Reser though. Playing under those lights is an experience of it's own.

    Not too sure what the plan is for games, we'll probably be using the intramural fields since they installed the turf last year and it's already lined for lacrosse. Beats taping the entire field in Reser although there are no bleachers at the IM fields. Only downside but it's near the dorms so it should be easier to draw a crowd.

    How long have you been in California for? I've been in Oregon since July 2010 and I feel like I've been on vacation the whole time. Finally started up at OSU this fall. Worth taking a year off to gain residency.
  • Reply to @Adam: Ya Truax is the indoor practice facility, you guys should just line chairs up and down the sideline Blazer styler! Been in Cali since April moved here for work, it's pretty nice down here but I am an Oregon kid at heart. They should let you guys play in Reser, maybe if you guys recruited James Rodgers they would let you... ha
    Tyler Baumann
    SOU Lacrosse Alum
    www.BaumannProductions.com
  • What are the SLC D2 division this year?
  • Reply to @PEstevez: The "Pacific" Division is: Concordia, Long Beach, Irvine, Marymount, San Marcos, Fullerton and Grand Canyon. The "Western" Division is: Biola, Pepperdine, Occidental, Channel Islands, Cal Lu, and UCSD. It's slightly unbalanced this season, but with Fullerton's move to D1 next season the two sides should be balanced unless any new team is admitted.
    Aaron Klett
    Biola University
    Head Coach
  • Reply to @aklett: Either way, the divisions would be a bit unbalanced, all I could see is maybe moving Long Beach but it doesn't look too bad. I feel like a few teams are going to underestimate San Marcos, they are in the North County - San Diego hot bed of Lacrosse with high schools such as La Costa Canyon, Torrey Pines, Poway, Rancho Bernardo, Cathedral Catholic that have guaranteed admission to CSUSM. Word is they have a former Chapman and LCC midfielder playing for them.
  • Reply to @PEstevez: good for them! It's great to get another good program in the conference. I had to travel for work when we played them last year, but I heard that they had several players who were very talented. We all know how good the local high schools are in North County.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • I just learned that Occidental will be playing BYU at Laxtoberfest in Vegas against their "blue" squad. There's a good chance that it's only their underclassmen. Hopefully we step up in a big way...

    http://www.lasvegaslacrosseshowcase.com/uploads/Best_of_the_West_College_Schedule.pdf
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Results from this morning in Vegas:

    BYU 15 - Oxy 5. Could have been way worse! A freshman out of Hotchkiss dropped 3 Gs for the Tigers.

    Utah 9 - Oxy 2.

    Waiting for the score for their third game.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • Final score of the day:
    Westminster 13 - Oxy 3
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.
  • cw2k suggested me once to do slc.dll wrapper (when I was trying to hack 6608 & 6519) - external slc.dll which will contain all exported functions of slc_original.dll, and redirect them (of course "needed" values will be replaced with "genuine" ones).

    But it's really hard work and I don't know if anybody would be able to do that.

    I suggest trying to crack Timebomb instead of activation because it's more important ATM (Public Beta 1 will have exactly the same timebomb, and we will be able to activate it with public keys, it would be great to run Beta 1 in 2013 and 2014 ).


    PS.
    Look for "Kernel-ExpirationDate" everywhere
  • Proud alum here. Final result from Patterson Field is Oxy 11, Pepperdine 10.
    Big lacrosse fan. Oxy '09 and former assistant with the Tigers.