I am guessing there may be at least two more teams who might make a splash as well, I hear UPS has got some ballers this year

Reply to @LaxJunky: They are not eligible for post-season play. I think they will be instant competitors in the north and they could play spoiler by beating a team or two. Their players (and coach) are eligible for PNCLL player awards and they have some kids who might make that list.

I didn't realize they were still under probation...

Reply to @Tlingit_Cannon:

To be clear: UPS is NOT under probation. They are in the second year of the PNCLL's new-team admission procedure. The second year of that process is full member status of the MCLA, but the PNCLL does not allow them to compete in their conference postseason.

The PNCLL has adopted the virtual varsity model and does not allow for "no-questions-asked" admission.

Looking forward to a competitive year of lax in the PNW!

Some recent fall ball scores to chew on:

SFU 14 – WWU 3
SOU 9 – UN-Reno 2
UC-Davis 7 – SOU 1
OSU 14 – WOU 12
UPS 9 – CWU 3

I can only comment on the UPS/CWU game, and all I can say is CWU is a very improved team on last year. Their defense is very strong and athletic and Bressler is much improved from last year. It is safe to expect much better things from them this year.

Reply to @503laxghost: Let’s be honest, we couldn’t have gotten much worse.

CWU will be interesting to watch this year. At the Laredo they just looked like a solid team on and off the field but underwhelmed as far as the game scores reflected. They have a good sized roster and I know they have a new coach this year, I expect them to continue to build.

UPS though will be (is) greatly improved from last season. It looks like their fall ball is over so if they can use the break between now and February to improve maybe we'll see a huge goal reversal against SOU in Ashland, long way to go though.

Here is a quick glimpse at my preseason Player of the Year candidates:

Ian McAnnis-Enternman – Willamette - Attack
Jacob Bohince – Western Oregon - Midfield
Mike Henry – Portland - Goalie
Spencer Brock – Western Oregon – Attack
Colin Gaddy – Western Washington - Midfield

Reply to @CLamon: I would say it is almost worth considering Frutiger, but he probably gets too many non-releasables to warrant any MVP consideration. If he could keep his attitude in check he would be considerably more valuable to WOU.

Reply to @ChrisCurtis: Well that’s because they had to give it to someone, let’s be honest, that tourney was a snore-fest.

Reply to @CLamon: First let me say I want to thank you for your concern about what the Western Program is doing.Let me also that if you are a supporter of the old coach, that is fine, but don't comment on a situation unless you know all the facts.If you want to ask me what is going on then you can get in touch with me.I think our team is more then capable of handling the situation I have a great assistant coach who has done a tremendous job giving my situation.Let's try this CLamon, let's first get all the facts then you can go twist the story any way you like.

Reply to @TheBearcatHimself: I know for a FACT they don't!

Reply to @Attack3:
To add on to LaxJunky's fine pointers, please also be wary of misusing a word because of homonym confusion. As I tell my 5th graders: spoken English and written English are oftentimes two very different things.

Reply to @Attack3:

For a former HS teacher, that is one HELL of a run on sentence to start that paragraph.

Also, you forgot punctuation to end your paragraph. We'll keep working on this throughout the season.

Reply to @Attack3: My first practice in high school ended with a speech from my coach, where he emphasized rule #1, "don't embarrass the program."

This is the main outlet for all buzz on your conference and the MCLA, which is frequented by coaches, alums, and fans like me who have little or no exposure to other resources about the different conferences around the country. I recommend making more of an effort to communicate professionally, and also to brush off criticism with more poise and integrity. You are the coach of a top 10 program.

Where's the WOU PR director when you need him?

Reply to @Steno: You're welcome, it's always great to know I have a admired fan of my posts.

Well now, what have we learned here?

First, Mr. Lamon is once again lamenting over Western Oregon’s coaching situation. I can assure you Casey that our staff will be ready to go when the games count. Also, I don’t feel it is respectful of you to discredit the programs of Cal State Fullerton, Westminster, and Sam Houston State by implying that the teams on Western’s early schedule are weak.

Second, Mr. Patton you are correct in stating that Attack3 is not a student of Western Oregon University and you are correct in your fact finding that WOU does teach their students to put spaces after punctuation. Apparently our alumnus, Mr. Blair, did not learn this skill to which I am not surprised.

Third, Mr. Junky when you criticize someone it is best to not enumerate your list thusly: 1., 2., 2., 3. Otherwise what have you really taught us?

Fourth, Mr. Steno how is Whitman’s coaching staff looking?

Fifth, Mr. Rodriguez you are a troll that can be unmatched by a mere Director of PR. Please continue to double post for emphasis.

Sixth, Coach Ellison (Attack3 for those not catching on) thank you for the kind words. You will quickly learn by this display of forum posters that the lacrosse forum community is an establishment of polished dialect and any such person violating this rule will be shunned. In addition, wear your Western Oregon allegiance proudly because you will get no such respect, leeway, or fanfare from anyone here. I might add that this is why we hired you, knowing that someone who wasn’t as polarizing as the team would be unfairly painted into a corner without the fire to fight back.

Reply to @SteveBlair: I love you

Reply to @ChrisCurtis:

Your words. They cut. So deep.

I'm gonna get back to what this thread was started for, because everyone will always hate the champs (4 in a row to be exact). You guys sound pathetic complaining about punctuation. Grow up & battle with logic or shoot...even opinion, but not grammar. Let's get back on track:

2012
1. WOU
2. Western Washington
3. UofP
4. Gonzaga

WOU: You can't deny WOU's dominance (even if you hate us). The arsenal of offensive talent makes it ALMOST impossible for any PNCLL team to stop, the plan has to be executed to a T. Keying in on one player wont stop WOU, because another player will step up. The key to beating WOU is winning f/o's, dominating time of possession, & not letting WOU play their upbeat, run & gun, athletic style of play. But you have to finish with a goal on those long possessions. The top teams in the country know this well, but the PNCLL hasn't caught on to stopping WOU. WOU will never win the Natty Ship until they mature to being able to play at different tempos. (oh & get a 2nd goalie for the first time in school history; they've never practiced full-field).

WWU: I would love to hear some people talk about what Western Washington brings to the table. I know they usually bring in some pretty good freshman classes. WWU is probably the only team that has a shot at knocking off WOU.

UofP: I'm a really BIG fan of this squad. They're young, talented, & have a great goalie. As they continue to mature, the wins will come with more ease. I feel they could have a break out year.

Gonzaga: A definite surprise to the league that these guys never showed up. I have no idea what lies ahead in recruiting classes & would love to learn more about the prospects for next year.

Is my punctuation good enough to not be made fun of by the "Cool & Smart" guys???

I can use logic, though it is a new concept for me, let me know how I'm doing:

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Attack3 said:

"I’m not entitled to give anyone inside reports on what our team is doing unless it is positive and beneficial for both groups, once again that is the up to the discretion of our Director of Public Relation."

Are you implying that WOU has some sort of corporate hierarchy to determine its communications pattern? And are you further implying that the Head Coach is in fact at the bottom of this hierarchy and has no control over the communications of the team?

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I don't think it's unfair to be doubtful that the coach of an MCLA team would begin posting and talking trash under an anonymous forum name, "Attack3". I've never seen anything like that in my 8 years in the MCLA. (Though the PNCLL forums are generally the Wild West of nonsense)

User-Tip: you have a user signature on these forums, I'd use it to identify yourself so we can sort through the casual-troll junk. My general INTERWEBZ rule of thumb: No Signature, No Need for Respect.

I look forward to meeting Barry Ellison, I am excited to see him continue WOU's track record of success.

Reply to @Attack3: Welcome to the PNCLL, where a good portion of the coaches and forum posters have advanced degrees, this isn’t the LSA.

Reply to @Attack3:

Attack3 said:

...and btw still don't care how I post.

Why would you? I mean, you only represent WOU now.